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    2/09/2022 1:10 pm  #1

    Demiurge
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    Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Just curious, which method do you use?  I've been using method 2 (3d6 in order 3 times, pick one) in my B/X game, but have been thinking about using method 3 (4d6 drop low) when I start my my Hyperborea game.  I think I would disallow attribute adjustment with method 3, though.

    Last edited by Demiurge (2/09/2022 1:11 pm)

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    2/09/2022 2:12 pm  #2

    gizmomathboy
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Anything mentioned in the rules...(edited after read, re-read, posted, read again, and then edited the post again)

    Last edited by gizmomathboy (2/09/2022 2:13 pm)

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    2/09/2022 2:15 pm  #3

    gizmomathboy
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Now, what I posted and edited just now, I lean towards Method 5, 2d6+6 in order.

    Definitely creates an above average pc but considering how lethal Hyperborea is...I'm ok with that.

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    2/10/2022 5:57 am  #4

    rhialto
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    I've tried them all with my group, and prefer 2d6+6 in order too. One of the great virtues of Hyperborea is that attributes don't have as much of an impact on your character as your level increases: the 7th level Fighter with ST 10 is still the best fighter in the group. Equally important to me, my players are happy with the method: "cool, I got an 18!"...even though it has a small consequence. https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png

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    2/10/2022 1:20 pm  #5

    BlackKnight
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    I actually have my players hop online with me and run through Gizmo's PC generator using either Method 3 or 4 on Strictness 2, to generate their characters. I have them create 2 characters (one for Main, one on Backup) for when/if the main character dies as many do in Hyperborea. They can run the generator 2 times for each character they are creating (choosing the one with the preferred stats).
    (Thanks again Gizmo for making such a great engine to help with character generation!)

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    2/10/2022 1:24 pm  #6

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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    I require method 3 and do allow adjustments. I think that's the most flexible and gives PCs a boost without being a complete handout (which is what I consider methods 4 and 5 to be - just my opinion).

    Last edited by Blackadder23 (2/10/2022 1:25 pm)

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    2/10/2022 1:29 pm  #7

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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Thanks mucho.

    Glad to be of service.

    Yeah, I'm partial to strictness level 2 as well.

    I also need to add Method 6 that Ghul added in 3e. I think for that there would be no Strictness 1 or 2 since by description it's effectively Strictness 3.

    I'm still pondering/experimenting with the physique stuff along with general "what has changed?" things.

    I think updating race might be the first thing I can do with minimal fuss.

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    2/10/2022 5:20 pm  #8

    lykathea
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    We do method 2 - have found it to be a great middle ground option while still having that "as the dice lay" feeling.

     

    2/11/2022 12:09 pm  #9

    BlackKnight
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    gizmomathboy wrote:

    Thanks mucho.

    I'm still pondering/experimenting with the physique stuff along with general "what has changed?" things.

    I think updating race might be the first thing I can do with minimal fuss.

    Doing Ethnicity should be a breeze as long as you're not doing the Height/Weight. Add those and it's maybe al dozen extra tables/rolls...

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    2/11/2022 3:02 pm  #10

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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    The names are slowing me down a bit since I have to do those updates at the same time.

    The physique stuff is a work in progress as I ponder how I go about solving that puzzle.

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    2/11/2022 11:33 pm  #11

    Blackadder23
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    BlackKnight wrote:

    gizmomathboy wrote:

    Thanks mucho.

    I'm still pondering/experimenting with the physique stuff along with general "what has changed?" things.

    I think updating race might be the first thing I can do with minimal fuss.

    Doing Ethnicity should be a breeze as long as you're not doing the Height/Weight. Add those and it's maybe al dozen extra tables/rolls...

    The height and weight really aren't that bad. All of the races pull their numbers from the same table, and a lot of races share the same rolls (i.e., Anglo-Saxons, Esquimaux-Ixians, Ixians, Kimmerians, Vikings, and Yakuts all use 4d6 drop low).

    As for eye color, hair color, and complexion, nothing could be easier. Whoever created those tables must be a certified genius. https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png

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    2/12/2022 10:19 am  #12

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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Blackadder23 wrote:

    BlackKnight wrote:

    gizmomathboy wrote:

    Thanks mucho.

    I'm still pondering/experimenting with the physique stuff along with general "what has changed?" things.

    I think updating race might be the first thing I can do with minimal fuss.

    Doing Ethnicity should be a breeze as long as you're not doing the Height/Weight. Add those and it's maybe al dozen extra tables/rolls...

    The height and weight really aren't that bad. All of the races pull their numbers from the same table, and a lot of races share the same rolls (i.e., Anglo-Saxons, Esquimaux-Ixians, Ixians, Kimmerians, Vikings, and Yakuts all use 4d6 drop low).

    As for eye color, hair color, and complexion, nothing could be easier. Whoever created those tables must be a certified genius. https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png

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    2/12/2022 11:39 am  #13

    gizmomathboy
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    Re: Attribute Generation In Your Game

    Lol.

    I it is a rather ingenious, compact method

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