Anything mentioned in the rules...(edited after read, re-read, posted, read again, and then edited the post again)

Last edited by gizmomathboy (2/09/2022 2:13 pm)

I've tried them all with my group, and prefer 2d6+6 in order too. One of the great virtues of Hyperborea is that attributes don't have as much of an impact on your character as your level increases: the 7th level Fighter with ST 10 is still the best fighter in the group. Equally important to me, my players are happy with the method: "cool, I got an 18!"...even though it has a small consequence. 

I require method 3 and do allow adjustments. I think that's the most flexible and gives PCs a boost without being a complete handout (which is what I consider methods 4 and 5 to be - just my opinion).

Last edited by Blackadder23 (2/10/2022 1:25 pm)

We do method 2 - have found it to be a great middle ground option while still having that "as the dice lay" feeling.

The names are slowing me down a bit since I have to do those updates at the same time.

The physique stuff is a work in progress as I ponder how I go about solving that puzzle.

Blackadder23 wrote:

BlackKnight wrote:

gizmomathboy wrote:

Thanks mucho.

I'm still pondering/experimenting with the physique stuff along with general "what has changed?" things.

I think updating race might be the first thing I can do with minimal fuss.

Doing Ethnicity should be a breeze as long as you're not doing the Height/Weight. Add those and it's maybe al dozen extra tables/rolls...

The height and weight really aren't that bad. All of the races pull their numbers from the same table, and a lot of races share the same rolls (i.e., Anglo-Saxons, Esquimaux-Ixians, Ixians, Kimmerians, Vikings, and Yakuts all use 4d6 drop low).

As for eye color, hair color, and complexion, nothing could be easier. Whoever created those tables must be a certified genius.

And a veritable paragon of humility!
 

I've just received my 3E HYPERBOREA  ruleset and viewed the attribute (or stat) generation methods.  I might stick with my homebrew used for OSE (i.e. B/X D&D):

one stat of choice rolls 2d6+6
one stat of choice rolls 2d6+5
two stats of choice roll 2d6+4
two stats of choice roll 2d6+3 

After rolling, one could pick a class freely given how the results turned out even if that did not align with one's hopes in assigning the options.  

After playing around with this in an OSE context, I found that what seemed to work best was to put the 2d6+5 into CON regardless of intended class aspiration: a sort of "protect hps" approach. That being said, AS&SH's has a slightly less punishing "low end" CON table compared to OSE or LotFP, so one might optimize differently depending on class aspirations.  

Btw, I realize, of course, that this system only permits a single attribute even the possibility of an 18.  

Last edited by Aelric (1/04/2023 10:13 pm)

Aelric wrote:

I've just received my 3E HYPERBOREA  ruleset and viewed the attribute (or stat) generation methods.  I might stick with my homebrew used for OSE (i.e. B/X D&D):

one stat of choice rolls 2d6+6
one stat of choice rolls 2d6+5
two stats of choice roll 2d6+4
two stats of choice roll 2d6+3 

After rolling, one could pick a class freely given how the results turned out even if that did not align with one's hopes in assigning the options.  

After playing around with this in an OSE context, I found that what seemed to work best was to put the 2d6+5 into CON regardless of intended class aspiration: a sort of "protect hps" approach. That being said, AS&SH's has a slightly less punishing "low end" CON table compared to OSE or LotFP, so one might optimize differently depending on class aspirations.  

Btw, I realize, of course, that this system only permits a single attribute even the possibility of an 18.  

Seems like a pretty cool house rule. I can dig it.
 

Demiurge wrote:

(3d6 in order 3 times, pick one)

I actually started doing that when running AS&SH and now I'm completely sold on it whatever I run. 3 solid choices, a good chance 1 will fit the class you want.