HYPERBOREA / simplified character sheet

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 8:13 am

The "default" character sheet for ASSH is great but a bit intense I think for someone like my kids (or eye challenged like myself).

So, I am working on a "simplified" version of it.

I was also wondering if it might be nice for con pregens as well? I'm thinking more for a game where you might have folks that aren't familiar with ASSH.

In any case here is what I have at the moment. I know that some of the text needs to move around to be less annoying. I'm also thinking of moving the stat blocks to the center of the page and move the combat related stuff to the top. Leaving the Abilities at the bottom since those are the 2 easiest to scan to portions of the page. I think, my UI/UX theory is not that great.

EDIT: Link is to dropbox folder with current and past revisions. See latest posts for link to current pdf.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d62ec3i5sa0xqr/AAAgLWy7616X1CzEJbUM-4XUa?dl=0

Last edited by gizmomathboy (3/15/2016 12:47 pm)

**Posted by Handy Haversack** 3/15/2016 10:07 am

Nice one, gizmo!

I have DLed and will share with my players to get feedback. Offhand, I think you could shrink the ability-score section (the lines probably need to be the size of the saving-throw section. Some classes have more abilities than I think I would be able to fit in the abilities section as now sized.

You could fit To-hit and Damage mods in the column now just for to-hit, I think. Add a check box for mastery?

And, of course, neither spells nor gear and encumbrance is on there. Also Turning Ability.

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 11:44 am

Handy Haversack wrote:
Nice one, gizmo!

I have DLed and will share with my players to get feedback. Offhand, I think you could shrink the ability-score section (the lines probably need to be the size of the saving-throw section. Some classes have more abilities than I think I would be able to fit in the abilities section as now sized.

You could fit To-hit and Damage mods in the column now just for to-hit, I think. Add a check box for mastery?

And, of course, neither spells nor gear and encumbrance is on there. Also Turning Ability.

This is a work in progress. I'm working on page 2 at the moment.

I am thinking mastery stuff can go in the notes for weapons or abilities.

I was thinking more about hitting about 80% of what is needed. Not everyone has Turning or Casting Ability, but I'll thinking about it.

The attributes block is a bit big and I can probably shrink that down some in upcoming revisions. Recall, the main focus for me is something that a 10yo boy can easily and legibly write in. :-)

I'll appreciate any feedback, plus keep in mind "simplified" and for "kids"

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 12:49 pm

Ok, Handy, here's a link to the latest version with about everything I want in the base sheet.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9nrha2zphoqc33/assh_character_sheet_letter_size_gizmo_spin_mk04_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

I think I will look to add encumbrance, Turning and Casting Abilities if I can make space for them.

I'll be moving/changing the money area as well.

Spells and anything else will be a separate sheet.

Fiddly bits todo: Line weights, text alignment

Last edited by gizmomathboy (3/15/2016 12:50 pm)

**Posted by Handy Haversack** 3/15/2016 1:17 pm

gizmomathboy wrote:
I'll appreciate any feedback, plus keep in mind "simplified" and for "kids"

I think "my players" gets us to about the same place!

Looking good. Consider switching the Target AC/Move/Run line with the Saving Throw/FA/Unskilled line just to bring the combat numbers down next to the weapons. And maybe subdivide "Name" so that "Player" can be added?

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 3:41 pm

Here's the latest:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/feoazn7tn2y32sg/assh_character_sheet_letter_size_gizmo_spin_mk05_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

Handy, I think I'll add your changes tonight when I get a chance.

I think with this version (and adding in Handy's suggestion) I'll be down to nitpickery (text alignment and line weights).

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 5:07 pm

Here it is with Handy's suggested changes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9i1lzcwvj4okuh/assh_character_sheet_letter_size_gizmo_spin_mk06_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 5:26 pm

Of course I show it to my kids, "Daddy, Avoidance is on their twice." D'oh!

Come on guys you're getting shown up by an 8yo. ;-)

With the fixes for that and 1 or 2 other things

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3l2j2n8skojz4z/assh_character_sheet_letter_size_gizmo_spin_mk07_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

**Posted by Handy Haversack** 3/15/2016 5:47 pm

Manny's going to use it for his next character!

**Posted by Handy Haversack** 3/15/2016 6:08 pm

Also, there's clearly no need for a magic items section!

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/15/2016 7:25 pm

Go Manny.

I was gonna say that the Magic Items sections is a bit oversized and ambitious for your campaign.

Thanks for using it and let me know of any suggestions/mistakes/etc.

**Posted by Ghul** 3/16/2016 5:52 am

Handy Haversack wrote:
Also, there's clearly no need for a magic items section!

Ha! Spoken like a true referee!

**Posted by mabon5127** 3/16/2016 7:19 am

Handy Haversack wrote:
Also, there's clearly no need for a magic items section!

Nice. You could probably just re-purpose the HP History line for that.

Last edited by mabon5127 (3/16/2016 7:31 am)

**Posted by Chainsaw** 3/16/2016 7:20 am

gizmo, I love the idea and concept, man. I'm a fan of any supplements that can aid in getting new players to have a good time (my wife and her sister come to mind). Personally, I find the attributes moved to the middle a little jarring, though. I'm just used to seeing them at the top, I guess. No one else has complained, so I suppose I am an outlier here, heh! Would it be tought to make an alternate version for weirdos like me?

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/16/2016 7:45 am

Chainsaw wrote:
gizmo, I love the idea and concept, man. I'm a fan of any supplements that can aid in getting new players to have a good time (my wife and her sister come to mind). Personally, I find the attributes moved to the middle a little jarring, though. I'm just used to seeing them at the top, I guess. No one else has complained, so I suppose I am an outlier here, heh! Would it be tought to make an alternate version for weirdos like me?

Yeah, it's weird for me, too. Just trying something different in layout that I think might work better for finding the info.

I'll be sure to make a "ASSH simplified character sheet: Chainsaw Edition" :-)

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/16/2016 8:29 am

I think this is roughly the final form of the sheets

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4743qnw0r42ue0f/assh_char_sheet_simplified_mk08_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

and chainsaw's

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hpzn6lcvmcolci/assh_char_sheet_simplified_mk08_chainsaw_all_pages.pdf?dl=0

**Posted by Chainsaw** 3/16/2016 8:31 am

Thanks! Man, that Chainsaw version sure is beautiful!

**Posted by mabon5127** 3/16/2016 10:09 am

Chainsaw wrote:
Thanks! Man, that Chainsaw version sure is beautiful!

I like the stats at the top version AKA the "Chainsaw" version a little better. Could there be a add-on spell sheet in the same format?

Thanks!

**Posted by gizmomathboy** 3/16/2016 11:35 am

mabon5127 wrote:
Chainsaw wrote:
Thanks! Man, that Chainsaw version sure is beautiful!
I like the stats at the top version AKA the "Chainsaw" version a little better. Could there be a add-on spell sheet in the same format?

Thanks!

Yep, There will be a 3rd page for spell stuff. Just haven't done it yet.

**Posted by mabon5127** 3/16/2016 11:55 am

Awesome! Thanks!