So I've been rolling up new characters for our initial party and I noticed that cryomancers and pyromancers have -2 to saves vs. fire and cold respectively. But they both get +2 to saves vs. devices. So does this mean that if a cryomancer was saving against a wand of fire the bonus/penalty would negate each other? Or would the penalty still apply?
"Could you fancy me as a pirate bold? Or a longship Viking warrior with the old gods on his side? Well, I'm an inshore man and I'm nobody's hero. But I'll make you tight for a windy night and a dark ride."--Jethro Tull
