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The Young Kingdom (my version):
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Wow, very nice: well done!
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Snag this map while you can, I tried putting link on Chaosium Forum and got shot down in flames. I will be removing it from my Flickr tomorrow, rush, rush, rush.
If folks want the map, I could E-mail it to them?
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Caveman wrote:
Snag this map while you can, I tried putting link on Chaosium Forum and got shot down in flames. I will be removing it from my Flickr tomorrow, rush, rush, rush.
If folks want the map, I could E-mail it to them?
I downloaded it already, but why was it flamed?
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Copyright, I used someone else map and it belongs to whomever. Not sure if I had just designed my own map, without William Church's design, would it have been fine?, but naw problem. It that kind of world. Just wanted to show folks what I had done, and if they had enjoyed it, they could use for their own benefit. What can I type/say, it is the way it is... 
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Ah, well that makes sense for copying the map, but your extensions would seem to be your own (derived) work and fall under Fair Use (maybe by adding a disclaimer)? In any case, copyright infringement is dishonorable and to be thwarted. 
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I still chatting with the fellow from Chaosium. He states if I had just done map in a different style, that would have been fine, but I just loved the ye auld William Church's work, that I just wanted to keep it the same.
Still, I can still use map for personal use, and perhaps one day I try again, but perhaps in the next decade.
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
So, map removed. But chat with man of Chaosium, stated that using Fonts for another map, is not copyright. So, I have a plan with another world I created for Stormbringer.
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
So it was the combination of a specific font + the Young Kingdoms that was the issue? Could you reproduce the YK map using a different font (say, Crush Your Enemies), and be in the clear?
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Yes, if I had done that map and made it my own like this:
WIP: The World of Elric, Classic Fantasy Style — ProFantasy Community Forum
Then that would be fine...
I now in process of using the fonts from the original map to create a different map.
It was just the original map was within my work that made that map illegal.
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
Very nice work, love the sepia tone. With maps in particular it would seem adding or removing details would result in a different creation, but who knows?
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Re: The Young Kingdom (my version):
I think mine was just too obviously William Church's.
In honestly, I had wanted to duplicate the WC's map, I have used it for decades, and there is no use me creating a different style of YK map otherwise, the duplication was essential to my idea of the YK.
I enjoy the 'Crush Your Enemies,' font. I have the Crom font, but these give more defined characters. Cheers for including that in your post!
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