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3/16/2021 7:58 pm  #1


Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Presented for your enjoyment:

The Sciomancer (updated; I added one spell and shuffled a coupled of others)

The Gloomhaunter

Last edited by DMPrata (3/17/2021 1:07 pm)

 

3/17/2021 5:34 am  #2


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Most excellent! Everything looks good, but the Shadow Blade spell seems a little strong for 4th Level.


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3/17/2021 6:55 am  #3


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Cheers, the more the merrier!

 

3/17/2021 11:49 am  #4


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Hmmm, the schiomancer implies the possibility of a shadowthief or some such in the lines of a legerdemainist.


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3/17/2021 1:11 pm  #5


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

rhialto wrote:

Most excellent! Everything looks good, but the Shadow Blade spell seems a little strong for 4th Level.

Shadow blade actually is a level 3 spell. It’s essentially the same as the level 2 flame blade spell, but with the additional possibility of severing a limb on a natural 20.

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3/17/2021 1:11 pm  #6


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

gizmomathboy wrote:

Hmmm, the schiomancer implies the possibility of a shadowthief or some such in the lines of a legerdemainist.

Have you looked at the gloomhaunter? They’re a matched set.

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3/17/2021 1:29 pm  #7


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Ah, my scan missed the schiomancer mention!

I should have looked closer knowing your attention to detail :-)


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3/17/2021 7:31 pm  #8


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

DMPrata wrote:

rhialto wrote:

Most excellent! Everything looks good, but the Shadow Blade spell seems a little strong for 4th Level.

Shadow blade actually is a level 3 spell. It’s essentially the same as the level 2 flame blade spell, but with the additional possibility of severing a limb on a natural 20.

Ah yes, so it is. And I knew you'd have a well-reasoned explanation for the level, so 3rd level seems appropriate then. 


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3/18/2021 7:24 am  #9


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

The Black Lightening spell is a much more interesting spell than the typical lightening bolt or fireball!  I would let that go to 3rd level!  I'll look at the rest later but love Black lightening. 


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And sweat at the daily round,
While in my soul forever
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3/18/2021 9:54 am  #10


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Methink DMPrata was wanting to make a Sith and has found a way ;-)


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3/18/2021 11:29 am  #11


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

gizmomathboy wrote:

Methink DMPrata was wanting to make a Sith and has found a way ;-)

One of many influences that came together with these subclasses, along with Gary Gygax’s shade, George R.R. Martin’s faceless men, Frank Herbert’s face dancers, ninja myths, and of course the actual definition of sciomancy as divination via shadows... There’s also a nod to a certain Marvel character in there too for good measure.

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3/18/2021 12:15 pm  #12


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

They are good additions.

Which reminds me that I need to bang away a bit at the class I was working on.


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4/10/2021 3:19 pm  #13


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Ok, I've whipped up some default spell lists a la BA's Random Encounter tables.

Suggestions welcome to improve the spell list choices.

gloomhaunter:
  1:  dampen light
  3:  invisibility
  5:   dimension door
  7:   feather fall
  8:  levitate
  9:  dispel magic
  10: wall of shadow
  11: continuous darkness
  12: hold person


sciomancer:
  1:
    - phantasmal armour
    - sleep
  2:
    - dampen light
  3:
    - continuous darkness
    - invisibility
  4:
    - detect magic
    - levitate
  5:
    - ray of darkness
  6:
    - wall of shadow
    - augury
    - invisibility hemisphere
  7:
    - black lightning
  8:
    - silence
    - spawn shadow monsters
    - spawn demi-shadow monsters
  9:
    - wyvern warden
    - teleport
  10:
    - hold person
    - vampiric touch
    - spawn shades
  11:
    - cause blindness
    - summon nightgaunt
  12:
    - remove curse
    - passwall
    - repulsion


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4/10/2021 6:12 pm  #14


Re: Two New Subclasses: The Sciomancer and the Gloomhaunter

Those both look good to start: wouldn't argue with any.


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