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5/23/2018 7:09 pm  #1


AS&SH Referee's Screen (Official)

Fellows,

As we prepare to create the official AS&SH Referee's Screen, I am curious to know which tables you feel are the most essential. Below you will find a list of all the tables that were included in the recent AS&SH Ready Reference Sheets. If you would be so kind, please express your favorites! It's quite fine if you say, "Include whichever tables you like, Jeff, but these five are absolutely essential!" Or you may have 12 or 15 favorites. Whatever you choose to express is helpful. Thank you! (And please, let's keep this thread on topic, if you don't mind. Feel free to start a new thread if you have some off-topic or tangential thoughts.)

Table 1: Strength
Table 2: Dexterity
Table 3: Constitution
Table 4: Intelligence
Table 5: Wisdom
Table 6: Charisma
Table 43: Unskilled Weapon Attack Penalty 
Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 
Table 45: Monetary Exchange 
Table 46: Armour
Table 47: Shields
Table 48: Melee Weapons 
Table 49: Missile Weapons 
Table 62: Armoured Sorcery 
Table 77: Light Sources
Table 78: d6 Task Resolution 
Table 79: Calculated Encumbrance 
Table 80: Overland Travel 
Table 81: Terrain Effects on Movement 
Table 82: Becoming Lost
Table 83: Course Deviation (Overland) 
Table 85: Reaction
Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 87: Attack Roll Modifiers 
Table 88: Armour Class Modifiers 
Table 89: Basic Combat Sequence 
Table 90: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Melee) 
Table 91: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Missiles) 
Table 92: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Magic) 
Table 93: Flask (Grenade) Hurling 
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 95: Combat Movement 
Table 97: Two-Weapon Fighting 
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 99: Saving Throw
Table 100: Item Saving Throws 
Table 152: Days of the Week 
Table 154: Cyclical Calendar 
Table 155: Daylight Calendar 
Table 156: Common Æra Chronology


Thank you!
Jeff T.


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5/23/2018 7:22 pm  #2


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Treasure ratings...

 

5/23/2018 7:24 pm  #3


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The calendar stuff is good...

 

5/23/2018 7:25 pm  #4


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1-6...meh...

 

5/23/2018 7:30 pm  #5


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The rest, very useful...

 

5/23/2018 7:43 pm  #6


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My Top 5:

Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 85: Reaction
Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 


My Next 4:

Table 46: Armour
Table 47: Shields
Table 48: Melee Weapons 
Table 49: Missile Weapons 


 


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5/23/2018 7:43 pm  #7


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How many panels are we talking about? Will the players' side have info too? Maybe 1-6, exchange rates, armors/shields and weapons and the calendars and such on the players' side.
All combat tables, resolutions, modifiers, undead tables, and the like on the Referee's side.

 

5/23/2018 7:47 pm  #8


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But whatever you decide, visual ease should outweigh inclusion. 
 

 

5/23/2018 8:14 pm  #9


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Iron Ranger wrote:

How many panels are we talking about?

I don't want you guys to worry about that, because I haven't completely decided yet. 

Will the players' side have info too? Maybe 1-6, exchange rates, armors/shields and weapons and the calendars and such on the players' side.

Not likely, but it's worth thinking about. Leaning towards just art on the players' side.

All combat tables, resolutions, modifiers, undead tables, and the like on the Referee's side.

So I'll consider these your primary choices then, correct?
 


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5/23/2018 8:50 pm  #10


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It is so great to see developer involvement with the community during the design phase!
I'm thinking of all the things i'm looking up constantly as I design and run... Basically, everything on pages 4-13 of the Ready Reference Sheets would be ideal, plus the Two Weapon fighting rules and the XP tables. The Attribute modifiers are more important for just players, and should be recorded on their sheets. The Refs guys don't really have Attributes like the players' guys have, so I feel those can safely be omitted for space.
I'm looking up the two-weapon fighting stuff a lot, even though that should be for them to keep track of. The XP tables I'm looking up constantly, those are crucial.
 


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5/23/2018 8:55 pm  #11


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Ghul wrote:

Iron Ranger wrote:

How many panels are we talking about?

I don't want you guys to worry about that, because I haven't completely decided yet. 

Will the players' side have info too? Maybe 1-6, exchange rates, armors/shields and weapons and the calendars and such on the players' side.

Not likely, but it's worth thinking about. Leaning towards just art on the players' side.

All combat tables, resolutions, modifiers, undead tables, and the like on the Referee's side.

So I'll consider these your primary choices then, correct?
 

Yes, if one entire side is just pictures, then, I guess leave all the flavor in the manuals and keep the screen bare bones. just the most oft used charts - combat matrix/ modifiers plus saving throws only. 

 

5/23/2018 9:20 pm  #12


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My top 3 are Combat Matrix, Turn Undead, and Item Saves.


Tim
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5/24/2018 4:18 am  #13


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Ghul wrote:

Table 43: Unskilled Weapon Attack Penalty 
Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 
Table 45: Monetary Exchange 
Table 46: Armour
Table 47: Shields
Table 48: Melee Weapons 
Table 49: Missile Weapons 
Table 62: Armoured Sorcery 
Table 77: Light Sources
Table 78: d6 Task Resolution
Table 85: Reaction
Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 87: Attack Roll Modifiers 
Table 88: Armour Class Modifiers 
Table 89: Basic Combat Sequence 
Table 90: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Melee) 
Table 91: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Missiles) 
Table 92: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Magic)
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 95: Combat Movement 
Table 97: Two-Weapon Fighting 
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 99: Saving Throw
Table 100: Item Saving Throws 

Just those listed above, assuming a four-panel screen with plenty of room.


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5/24/2018 5:16 am  #14


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Yeah, that looks like a good selection.

rhialto wrote:

Ghul wrote:

Table 43: Unskilled Weapon Attack Penalty 
Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 
Table 45: Monetary Exchange 
Table 46: Armour
Table 47: Shields
Table 48: Melee Weapons 
Table 49: Missile Weapons 
Table 62: Armoured Sorcery 
Table 77: Light Sources
Table 78: d6 Task Resolution
Table 85: Reaction
Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 87: Attack Roll Modifiers 
Table 88: Armour Class Modifiers 
Table 89: Basic Combat Sequence 
Table 90: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Melee) 
Table 91: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Missiles) 
Table 92: Comprehensive Combat Sequence (Magic)
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 95: Combat Movement 
Table 97: Two-Weapon Fighting 
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 99: Saving Throw
Table 100: Item Saving Throws 

Just those listed above, assuming a four-panel screen with plenty of room.

 

 

5/24/2018 8:23 am  #15


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Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 
Table 49: Missile Weapons (ranges) 
Table 77: Light Sources
Table 78: d6 Task Resolution  
Table 85: Reaction
Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 87: Attack Roll Modifiers 
Table 88: Armour Class Modifiers 
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 95: Combat Movement 
Table 97: Two-Weapon Fighting 
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 99: Saving Throw
Table 100: Item Saving Throws 


I would like to see at least the Missile weapon ranges on the screen
I find it very useful to have the Thief Skill Chart and Assassination Chart
I want everything in large font because I'm getting too old to find everything.....

My players particularly like the Symbols of the Gods on the front of the screen I use.  

Thanks!

Last edited by mabon5127 (5/24/2018 8:47 am)


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And sweat at the daily round,
While in my soul forever
The drums of Pictdom sound?” 
 

5/24/2018 8:24 am  #16


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Jimm.Iblis wrote:

It is so great to see developer involvement with the community during the design phase! 

I agree completely!!


“How can I wear the harness of toil
And sweat at the daily round,
While in my soul forever
The drums of Pictdom sound?” 
 

5/24/2018 9:08 am  #17


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Here's my list, which closely echoes what others have said before me:

Ghul wrote:

Table 43: Unskilled Weapon Attack Penalty 
Table 44: Attack Rate / Rate of Fire 
Table 46: Armour
Table 47: Shields
Table 48: Melee Weapons 
Table 49: Missile Weapons 
Table 62: Armoured Sorcery 
Table 77: Light Sources
Table 78: d6 Task Resolution 
Table 79: Calculated Encumbrance 
Table 85: Reaction
Table 86: Combat Matrix 
Table 87: Attack Roll Modifiers 
Table 88: Armour Class Modifiers 
Table 89: Basic Combat Sequence 
Table 93: Flask (Grenade) Hurling 
Table 94: Turn Undead
Table 95: Combat Movement 
Table 97: Two-Weapon Fighting 
Table 98: Critical Hit Results 
Table 99: Saving Throw
Table 100: Item Saving Throws 

.

​Mabon makes a great point in that it really should include both Thief Skill  (Table 11) and Assassination (Table 33).

Two additional thoughts:
-  Maybe for tables 1-6, you just include the information for attributes 13+ to save space?
-  In addition to the official Northwinds Ref's Screen, would it be possible to also have a PDF version created for use with the World's Greatest DM Screen?  

 

5/24/2018 9:43 am  #18


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In general, I agree with the lists from the last couple posts.

I definitely don't think that tables used mainly in character creation (abilities, etc.) or adventure creation (treasure tables, etc.) are needed on a referee's screen.


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5/24/2018 11:43 am  #19


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I am indifferent as to the screen contents on the inside. However, I'd strongly recommend a pocket on the outside to hold spare character sheets. I'd suggest it be a large capacity pocket. 

Last edited by thedenofsin (5/24/2018 11:56 am)

 

5/24/2018 11:54 am  #20


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thedenofsin wrote:

I am indifferent as to the table contents on the inside. However, I'd strongly recommend a pocket on the outside to hold spare character sheets. I'd suggest it be a large capacity pocket. 

Oh, there's no doubt that there are a lot of rash and foolhardy players out there who almost always get their just deserts. ;)
 


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